Storm Trooper

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Sat Jul 19 10:29:59 EDT 2008

Well since you ant see the fonts i have created some SS's

Here is the album with them in kk =]



http://tinypic.com/useralbum.php?ua=21bRR%2FTNLGpQ6gx97bDtpQ%3D%3D



Edited 1 time(s). Last edited by Storm Trooper @ Sat Jul 19 10:30:51 EDT 2008

Cyberkilla

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Sat Jul 19 11:55:42 EDT 2008

I don't know if people will agree with me on this, but I'm going to say it anyway...

I will not be going out of my way to support IE6 or lower.
If you are using Internet Explorer 6, you deserve to be handed to a firing squad.
I am sick and tired of supporting this browser. I will make sure the game runs with it, but there may not be all of the fanciness that comes with modern browsers.

For example, Firefox 3 and Safari support 'border-radius' which allows me to give the game rounded edges with no overhead on the source code.

I want to keep the source code as lean and mean as possible. This means having to make a few sacrifices, but almost entirely related to edges being curved. At the moment, the new template will look fine in all major browsers, but most will see it as boxes instead of rounded dialogs.

Some may even prefer it that way.

I will now get to the point of this post...
There will be several templates available to use - some will be fluid, some will be fixed to a certain width(for those who prefer it).
The default will attempt to keep an identical look(including curves if possible) in all recent browsers.
There will also be ultra minimalist styles for people who just want the maximum speed.

I know a few people use IE6 here because it's the only thing on their libraries or at work. I will make sure the theme looks more than acceptable, but I will not be driving myself mad trying to get everything working in it.


Invisible War ][

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Sat Jul 19 12:33:44 EDT 2008

Well I use IE6, and I'm used to not having all those stupid fancinesses of the other versions. I honestly will refuse to upgrade.... the new ones suck for me. My computer would hate the new ones too. (smiley)

So cyber, you have a thumbs up from me, even as an IE6 user!




BasedGod -OMG-

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Sat Jul 19 13:04:08 EDT 2008

ooo knowww i cannnt useee ie6 how will i play the game as best as possible rofflmao (smiley) that was a good one cyber


oh my god

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Sat Jul 19 14:35:53 EDT 2008

Quote

Well I use IE6, and I'm used to not having all those stupid fancinesses of the other versions. I honestly will refuse to upgrade.... the new ones suck for me. My computer would hate the new ones too. (smiley)

So cyber, you have a thumbs up from me, even as an IE6 user!



That's good to know(smiley) I will endeavour to make IE6's theme as efficient and clean as possible.

I must say though, the 'fanciness' doesn't just mean eye-candy.
It's the difference between me typing:

div.dialog { -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 1px solid black; }

<div cla**="dialog"></div>


and(for IE) something like this:

<table>
<tr>
<td style="width:10px;height:10px;background-image:url('');" colspan="2"></td>
<td style="width:10px;height:10px;background-image:url('');"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="width:10px;background-image:url('');"></td>
<td></td>
<td style="width:10px;background-image:url('');"></td>
<tr>
<td style="width:10px;height:10px;background-image:url('');" colspan="2"></td>
<td style="width:10px;height:10px;background-image:url('');"></td>
</tr>
</table>


Stupid example, I know. There are other ways to make borders in IE, but tables are more tried and tested.
I can get Opera, Firefox and Safari to do things with efficient one-liners like that, but IE is terrible.

That was a needless visual thing, but many other problems aren't. There are a LOT of bugs in IE6 and it takes a while to work around them.
There are bugs with margins, lack of support for CSS selectors, lack of native support for transparent PNG images, the list goes on.

For the good of the internet, please consider upgrading to another browser. Many of them are actually faster than the old ones, unless your computer is very, very old.

Firefox is my personal favourite, but Safari has excellent standards support. Opera has a tiny userbase relative to the others, but it is just as good with web standards(and benchmarked as the fastest in some areas).

I wouldn't move to IE7 though, if you do decide to upgrade. It's better, but not much better than IE.
You'll be shocked at how fast pages render in modern browsers.


Invisible War ][

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Sat Jul 19 22:03:52 EDT 2008

Pages still render in a millisecond or two for my computer. That or I've become slow.

Anyways, that does look like crap for the IE6 coding. I don't mind not getting total support though. Like I said in the other topic, I refuse Firefox. Just doesn't really run too well on my turdy compy.